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With the Church of England's first women bishops to be named womeh following the final seal of approval for legislation allowing them, that is exactly the case. Supporters of women bishops say St Paul was part of an early Christian world in which some Church leaders were women.

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Had been a persecutor of Christians before becoming a leader and teacher of Christian communities in Asia Minor, Greece and Rome Details of his life come from his letters, and the later Medsage of the Apostles Acts says he was a tentmakerthat his Jewish name was Saul, and that he was a Roman citizen - his other name Paulos could be Roman Later tradition says he was martyred in the same place as St Peter Rome and on the same date 29 June - but not necessarily in the same year. Surely if they prophesy they cannot keep silent - and therefore can be discarded?

But, he says, "all messsge earliest manuscripts of I Corinthians support the versions of the text as they appear in the standard translations", and its message is clear. With the Church of England's first women bishops to be named soon following the final seal of approval for legislation allowing them, that is exactly the case.

Dunn does not go so far, but he insists that texts must be seen in their historical context: "I think Paul would have been appalled that so many of his letters set in particular situations… are being generalised 19 centuries later and people say, 'This is the rule for ever and a day'. No-one doubts mesasge Paul wrote I Corinthians. But it is unlikely that either side will be able to convince the other of its own interpretations any time soon. To those not having the [Jewish] law I became like one not having the law Junia is one of the apostles, and among that group of apostles she is eminent," insists Dunn.

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But some commentators claim verse must have been added later, because it appears to contradict an earlier verse in the same letter which says women should have their he covered when they prophesy. The I Corinthians passage perhaps concerns "women who are too keen to take part and are asking questions and raising issues and so on, and the worship is being disrupted", Dunn says. But he thinks it may date from a second generation when the expected second coming of Jesus had not happened and biboe Church had to be "organised for an indeterminate future".

But, he says, "all our earliest manuscripts of I Corinthians support the versions of the text as they appear in the standard translations", and its message is clear. In its list of nearly 30 active early Christians, at least eight are women. But it is unlikely that either side will be able to convince the other of messgae own interpretations any time soon.

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She may be called an apostle. To those not having the [Jewish] law I became like one not having the law But he thinks it may date from a second generation when the expected second coming of Jesus had not happened and the Church had to be "organised for an indeterminate future". Why are women in a list of important early Christians?

Some observers question the validity of both these key "anti-women" texts. His letters to early Christians were reverently collected to form a major part of the New Testament - though they are preoccupied with local disputes and organisational matters and often angry. Surely if they prophesy they cannot keep silent - and therefore womne be discarded? Some have doubted Junia was a woman at all.

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Jimmy Dunn, former professor of divinity at Durham and author of the Cambridge companion to St Paul, and Dr Lee Gatiss, director of the evangelical Church Society, and opponent of women bishops, examine some of the texts. The clearest passages? And often he advised that if someone insists on a principle another thinks unimportant, that person should go along with them, rather than alienate them.

Some observers question the validity of both these key "anti-women" texts. Perhaps in 67AD. Many modern scholars think I Timothy is not by Paul, but by a later writer familiar with his thinking. In its list of nearly 30 active early Christians, at least eight are women. But this has too often been assumed to contradict the traditional reading of I Corinthians 14 and I Timothy 2 without proper logic or careful argumentation.

Many modern scholars think I Timothy is not by Paul, but by a later writer familiar with his thinking. Both say there is a line to be drawn between what is for the occasion when it was written, and what is a message for all believers and all time.

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Why are women in a list of important early Christians? They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the law says. Dunn does not think I Timothy should be disregarded.

And often he advised that if someone insists on a principle another thinks unimportant, that person should go along with them, rather than mmessage them. Dunn does not think I Timothy should be disregarded. No-one doubts that Paul wrote I Corinthians. Junia is one of the apostles, and among that group of apostles she is eminent," insists Dunn.

But this has too often been assumed to contradict the traditional reading of I Corinthians 14 and I Timothy 2 without proper logic or careful argumentation. Throughout his writings he wrestled with disputes among Christians. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in messxge, as the law says. He was a key figure in the first Churches spreading outside the Holy Land.

Supporters of women bishops say St Paul was part of an early Christian world in which some Church leaders were women. He was a key figure in the first Churches spreading outside the Holy Land.

Both say the obvious meaning of a passage should not be ignored because it does not seem to confirm our views. Another couple, Junia and Andronicus, are said to be "eminent among the apostles".

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Ibble Dunn, former professor of divinity at Durham and author of measage Cambridge companion to St Paul, and Dr Lee Gatiss, director of the evangelical Church Society, and opponent of women bishops, examine some of the texts. More recently, the dispute has been over whether the phrase means the pair were apostles themselves, or simply well known to them. She may be called an apostle.

As late as the s the New English Bible described her as Junias, a man. This would not surprise Paul.

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His letters to early Christians were reverently collected to form a major part of the New Testament - though they are preoccupied with local disputes and organisational matters and often angry. Both say there is a line to be drawn between what is for the occasion when it was written, and what is a message for all believers and all time. But some commentators claim verse must have been added later, because it appears to contradict an earlier verse in the same letter which says women should have their he covered when they prophesy.

Both sides in the debate say Bible passages must be taken in their historical context.

Related Topics. Both say the obvious meaning of a passage should not be ignored because it does not seem to confirm our views. The I Corinthians passage perhaps concerns "women who are too keen to take part and are asking questions and raising issues and hte on, and the worship is being disrupted", Dunn says.

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